User talk:Blackarcadia
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- Also, as your interests seem to lie in the realm of anime and manga, I encourage you to check out the Anime and manga WikiProject, which generally "oversees" such articles, and provides most of the guidance on their structure, sourcing, quality, etc. Its also a great resource for asking questions about anime/manga articles on the project talk page. The Manual of Style for Anime and manga may also prove useful to be a useful resource to you. I'd also like to offer a friendly word of advice. Please do not follow User:Dream Focus's very bad advice given in the Rockin' Heaven AfD regarding creating a character list. When an article is up for deletion, creating a split off from it would be extremely bad form and just create more work for the deleting admin if the article is not kept. If you disagree with my merging of the character list into the plot, please feel free to start a discussion on the talk page or ask me directly about why I did it. If we can't agree, then we can ask other project members to review the edits as well. That is how we solve disagreements here, rather than doing the sort of contentious and disruptive type of things that DF is suggestion you do. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 20:20, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
- Hey, thanks for the welcome! I'll keep that manual in mind. Thanks for showing it to me; I didn't even know it existed. So, speaking of Rockin' Heaven, I understand that you removed the characters list because most of the character profiles was just plot reinstatement. There are important things that are going to go on with them in the future, as well as important background information, so I was wondering if we could give the character thing another go? If it doesn't work out, we can remove it. I already discussed certain examples and details on the AfD discussion, if you could refer to it. We should at least keep the vomic cast information though, seeing as it is official and notable voice actors were involved in the production. But all of this is up in the air until we reach a consensus on whether the article should be kept in the first place. Blackarcadia (talk) 22:48, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
- You posted just as I was about to. Oh well, here it is. The article is going to be kept, so yes, you can make a character list, that allowed. Anyway, if you decide to get a wikia, which allows you far more space to do whatever you want, you just click this link: http://requests.wikia.com/wiki/Special:RequestWiki and type in the name of the series, and then it'll be approved. Dream Focus (talk) 22:50, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
- No, it isn't just "allowed" nor should it just be done to do it or to try to keep unnecessary information. Certainly for such a small number of characters, such a list would be merged back to the main article if a split were attempted. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 00:08, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
- Blackarcadia, see also WP:WAF for guidelines on writing about fiction. We aren't here to provide every minute detail of the character, but a summary of the major events within the series that occur with the character and a summary of their roles. If there is a separate character section, keep in mind that it should be brief, sourced, and strictly plot summary or information from third-party sources, no OR, no interpretation, etc. Feel free to give it another try, if you'd like, using good quality articles as examples (rather than bad advice from another inexperienced editor). Take a look at Blood+, X (manga), and Air (visual novel), for some example of higher quality anime/manga articles that have separate character sections, and some others, such as Fullmetal Alchemist, Tokyo Mew Mew and Madlax that have no separate character sections at all, instead adequately summarized their most major roles within the plot. Now, all of these series do have enough characters with enough sourced information to warrant separate lists, but such splits were done only because of the number of characters rather than just to do it. Before attempting such a split, the main article should be well written, including already having a large amount of information, and then, start such a list in your sandbox first, before splitting. Such a list should also be able to incorporate real world information from third party sources, such as creation/conception and reception information, or it shouldn't exist. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 00:08, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
- What if we have a character section on the original article again? I don't think it warrants itself as a separate list as it would be too short. Tell me what you think! Blackarcadia (talk) 00:11, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
- I've added back a cleaned up version of the character list. As you seem to have read the series, please provide the appropriate sourcing (see above examples for how to format sources, as well as {{cite book}} for the template to use}}. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 00:19, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
- All right! Thanks. I'll see what I can do. I've been keeping up by downloading RAWs and I'm planning on purchasing the actual volumes, so a clearer citation will have to wait. Thanks again! Blackarcadia (talk) 02:18, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
- I've added back a cleaned up version of the character list. As you seem to have read the series, please provide the appropriate sourcing (see above examples for how to format sources, as well as {{cite book}} for the template to use}}. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 00:19, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
- What if we have a character section on the original article again? I don't think it warrants itself as a separate list as it would be too short. Tell me what you think! Blackarcadia (talk) 00:11, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
- You posted just as I was about to. Oh well, here it is. The article is going to be kept, so yes, you can make a character list, that allowed. Anyway, if you decide to get a wikia, which allows you far more space to do whatever you want, you just click this link: http://requests.wikia.com/wiki/Special:RequestWiki and type in the name of the series, and then it'll be approved. Dream Focus (talk) 22:50, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
- Hey, thanks for the welcome! I'll keep that manual in mind. Thanks for showing it to me; I didn't even know it existed. So, speaking of Rockin' Heaven, I understand that you removed the characters list because most of the character profiles was just plot reinstatement. There are important things that are going to go on with them in the future, as well as important background information, so I was wondering if we could give the character thing another go? If it doesn't work out, we can remove it. I already discussed certain examples and details on the AfD discussion, if you could refer to it. We should at least keep the vomic cast information though, seeing as it is official and notable voice actors were involved in the production. But all of this is up in the air until we reach a consensus on whether the article should be kept in the first place. Blackarcadia (talk) 22:48, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Your recent edits to List of Internet phenomena have been reverted please do not add to the list until the phenomena has been discussed and come to the conclusion that they are notable enough to be on the list. If you want to test edit we encourage you to use the Sandbox. Thank you Kyle1278 (talk) 21:21, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Ojamajo Doremi discography
[edit]Good thing you were there to edit. After seeing the changes you made, I'm ashamed I missed those rather simple translations. Forgive me. Umandsf (talk) 01:21, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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